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I still read Scripting News nearly every day and I still think Dave Winer is a bit of a nutjob a fair bit of the time. Sometimes I agree with him, but I rarely feel strongly about it when I do. Usually it’s about something run-of-the-mill or otherwise meaningless. Today, however, I found myself actually rooting for Dave, which, to be honest, felt a little, well, dirty (j/k).

As I write this, though, the inspiration for my short step out of character isn’t posted on the site any longer and appears to have been replaced by this bland little item. Apparently, Dave was semi-spurned by IDG, the organizer of the Syndicate conference for posting the details of his interactions with them regarding his finding a personal sponsor for his appearance. In particular, I’m betting they didn’t like the criticism he leveled after they told him he couldn’t have a personal sponsor. He had written a very honest, but fair response to their attempt to censor his weblog by threatening his ability to speak if he didn’t stop posting the details. He said, thanks, but no thanks.

Hey, I don’t agree with the guy very often, but I sure appreciated what appeared to be his stand on this issue. I hope he re-posts it soon.

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Looks like I spoke too soon (about his taking it down). He just moved it off the front page. It’s posted at the bottom of this entry at reallysimplesyndication.com.

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BTW, the moratorium is back on. Also, Dave is back to being his good ol’ nutty self again today.

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Despite his frequently distasteful style, Dave’s numerous tangible contributions to the syndication space have been enormous. It would be a shame for any of them to lose the momentum they currently enjoy. Hopefully, they’ll get the board vacancies filled by a group of people that are committed to the success and growth of the RSS 2.0 format.

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“I never in a million years thought Google would stoop this low, even Microsoft on its worst day never played this dirty.”

It appears that Google is fast becoming the “Evil Corporate Giant” de jour. And with Dave leading the “Shoot First, Ask Questions Later” crowd, it is not surprising to see so much invective about the alleged slight to RSS 2.0.

However, after reading through most of the comments, on Dave’s site and others, and after some cursory grepping through my own logs, it becomes clear that the more likely scenario is that Google is just looking for as many predictably named feeds as possible. Further, it seems as if Google only looks for the additional feed types if it doesn’t find that feed type linked in the page.

For instance, on my site, Google indexes my unconventionally named RSS 2.0 and ATOM feeds and every once in a while, it checks for ‘index.rdf’. It has NEVER checked for atom.xml or rss.xml. I’m betting this is because it already found valid versions of those feed types at the linked URLs.

The true test would be to launch a new page with and ATOM or RSS 1.0 feed, but no RSS 2.0 feed (just for testing Dave, just for testing…) and watch and see if GoogleBot will look for the “missing” rss.xml. If it doesn’t, then, at least, we can begin to wonder. There may still be other reasonable explanations.

Finally, I’m curious about the last line of Dave’s e-mail:

Developers, no matter what format they prefer, are going to be outraged that Google, which is a search engine, is trying to control and define publishing. This should be illegal, although of course I am not a lawyer.

Frankly, this attitude is more destructive than anything Google could possible do. Google only has as much control as people give to them. Unlike Microsoft, Google does NOT dominate any market with anything approximating a 95% marketshare, nor are they able to secure deals with OEMs to prevent users from using alternative search engines. This isn’t anti-trust. There is no monopoly. The knee-jerk suggestion that this (whatever “this” is…it still isn’t more than a conspiracy theory) should be made illegal is ridiculous.

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